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this is a weak foreign policy. with terrible results. which makes us less safe. >> chris: let me pick up on a couple of those. syria, governor romney would not put u.s. troops on the ground in syria and, the red line is where barack obama's is, there is no big difference -- >> sure there is, iran, the biggest threat we have. the different is credibility. the president's iran policy lacks credibty. what i mean when i say that is, the ayatollahs in iran, they have to make a decision to stop pursuing a nuclear weapon, and, pursue a peaceful resolution. but they are no doing that. and i would argue that is because the president doesn't have credibility. he fought and resisted tough sanctions, to the last moment and he was silent on the green revolution while e we had a chance for a peaceful up rising for democracy that cracked down. when he puts the military option on the table he does it in a way that doesn't have credibility, baugh his administration sends out mixed signals such as, they are more about an israeli attack -- >> let me give y
this is a weak foreign policy. with terrible results. which makes us less safe. >> chris: let me pick up on a couple of those. syria, governor romney would not put u.s. troops on the ground in syria and, the red line is where barack obama's is, there is no big difference -- >> sure there is, iran, the biggest threat we have. the different is credibility. the president's iran policy lacks credibty. what i mean when i say that is, the ayatollahs in iran, they have to make a decision...
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not about foreign policy. the mormon identity and i want to also point out i have been busy on this but struck by it. this is wednesday's washington post and my wife pointed it out to me. a story up here at the top. at u.n. the president issues a challenge. here is the lead story. ohio florida give obama an edge. here is the side-bar story. for obama the buckeye state maybe a bulls eye. my wife turned to me and said well, i guess the race is over according to the washington post. am i overreacting to this? and more importantly is my wife overreact on this? >> reporting on the poll there's has been discussion about the polling and whether the polling is oversampling democrats. to come extent political reporters report on polls and that drives the narrate ives. the biggest problem mitt romney has in terms of media bias is less an idelogical bias and the attacked that they are covering him as if he is losing. they never covered george w. bush like he was going to lose. >> you look like you are going to come out o
not about foreign policy. the mormon identity and i want to also point out i have been busy on this but struck by it. this is wednesday's washington post and my wife pointed it out to me. a story up here at the top. at u.n. the president issues a challenge. here is the lead story. ohio florida give obama an edge. here is the side-bar story. for obama the buckeye state maybe a bulls eye. my wife turned to me and said well, i guess the race is over according to the washington post. am i...
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we're talking foreign policy. this is an area where the president, with regard to the election, felt pretty comfortable. and felt like he wouldn't have -- there wouldn't necessarily be an opening for the romney camp. does this give the romney camp a legitimate opening? >> no. i don't think so. because i've been ambassador in a region where it's been very volatile. these are bureaucratic decisions. and ambassador stevens made the decision to go to benghazi. what problem may emerge here, he went to benghazi with inadequate security. we have to understand that our embassies are not protected and our ambassadors are not protected by the marines or by u.s. personnel all the time. they're protected by the local government officials that provide that security. and chris was known as someone who didn't like the envelope of security around him. i think the real issue here is not so much whether or not the president or the administration was at fault, but whether or not the senior management level at the state department di
we're talking foreign policy. this is an area where the president, with regard to the election, felt pretty comfortable. and felt like he wouldn't have -- there wouldn't necessarily be an opening for the romney camp. does this give the romney camp a legitimate opening? >> no. i don't think so. because i've been ambassador in a region where it's been very volatile. these are bureaucratic decisions. and ambassador stevens made the decision to go to benghazi. what problem may emerge here, he...
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thomas pickering as you know, a very respected leader in foreign policy, is heading an investigation to figure this out. nothing is more important. you know, the middle east as we know is a very, very dangerous place. and we have to keep our guard up even as we are engaged in that region of the world in bringing many of these new countries into really the democratic sphere. this is the first time they've been able to elect their leaders. i was heartened as many were to watch the demonstrations in libya that followed that terrorist ait tack, with 30,000 in the street, you know, demanding that those militias and those, you know, terrorists and islamic militias are disbanded. that gives us, you know, great hope for, you know, what can happen in a place like libya. >> thanks so much, robert gibbs, see you in denver, be there tomorrow. >> thanks, andre ya. >> up next, the testy senate debate in massachusetts. and still ahead, mitt romney's debate strategy. we'll talk to his top adviser kevin madden. join us in denver at the site of the first presidential debate. among our guests obama dep
thomas pickering as you know, a very respected leader in foreign policy, is heading an investigation to figure this out. nothing is more important. you know, the middle east as we know is a very, very dangerous place. and we have to keep our guard up even as we are engaged in that region of the world in bringing many of these new countries into really the democratic sphere. this is the first time they've been able to elect their leaders. i was heartened as many were to watch the demonstrations...
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but foreign policy is looming large in this campaign. i want to turn to my colleague and our chief foreign current, richard engel live in kabul this morning where there is news beyond the libya crisis. richard i know as you've been covering the warn in afghanistan over the years. there are now 50-plus attacks, insider attacks that have killed american and other coalition forces. what's the latest you could tell us on the latest attack? >>. >> there's been another attack, it took place yesterday, but word of the insider attack is just coming to us today. in this attack, there was an american army checkpoint, a vehicle control point. and two afghan soldiers came up, they were speaking to the americans at this checkpoint and then suddenly, one of these afghan soldiers pulled out a weapon, opened fire. killed one american soldier. killed another american contractor and other americans in the area opened fire, killing at least three of the afghans. and this is a major problem, according to statistics. at least 20% of all u.s. combat deaths th
but foreign policy is looming large in this campaign. i want to turn to my colleague and our chief foreign current, richard engel live in kabul this morning where there is news beyond the libya crisis. richard i know as you've been covering the warn in afghanistan over the years. there are now 50-plus attacks, insider attacks that have killed american and other coalition forces. what's the latest you could tell us on the latest attack? >>. >> there's been another attack, it took...
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so far they feel very confident in their foreign policy and they're saying national security is one of their biggest strengths. >> okay. felicia, here's john kerry. he signed a letter with other senate intelligence committee members for more info on the libya matter. take a listen to this. >> the republicans are working overtime to try to exploit a very normal, run of the course, administrative letter that we agreed to on a bipartisan basis in our committee, simply to get some additional questions put in front of the state department. >> he goes on to say it's all political now. i mean, is this going to become a campaign issue? >> absolutely. you're already seeing it become a big issue on the campaign. particularly on the republican side. of course. the problem, though, is that the house and the senate both adjourned for the rest of this year, up until after the election, earlier this month, and so if this is going to be an issue that republicans wield against the obama ticket it's going to be one that they're going to have to do on the campaign trail. now, that spelled a problem for m
so far they feel very confident in their foreign policy and they're saying national security is one of their biggest strengths. >> okay. felicia, here's john kerry. he signed a letter with other senate intelligence committee members for more info on the libya matter. take a listen to this. >> the republicans are working overtime to try to exploit a very normal, run of the course, administrative letter that we agreed to on a bipartisan basis in our committee, simply to get some...
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in not only budget matters but also foreign policy. i think you'll see a lot more depth in terms of the conversation on thursday than you did four years ago. >> carrie dan, thank you and good luck out there. >> thanks a lot. >>> the upcoming debate puts the vice presidential nominees in the spotlight. we have heard from our campaign embeds on how the nominees are preparing. so what is at stake in the vice presidential debate? joining me is matt visor, the national political reporter for "the boston globe," and erin mcpike, political reporter for real clear politics. thanks to you both. mike, let's start with you. the "national journal" points out that biden has not set for a national interview in more than five months. he can be prone to having bloopers now and then that are always well talked about. are democrats concerned about what the democrats might say? >> sure. i mean, i think one of the best attributes of joe biden's is his ability to speak off the cuff. it creates some gaffes and missteps, but it's sort of rare to have a polit
in not only budget matters but also foreign policy. i think you'll see a lot more depth in terms of the conversation on thursday than you did four years ago. >> carrie dan, thank you and good luck out there. >> thanks a lot. >>> the upcoming debate puts the vice presidential nominees in the spotlight. we have heard from our campaign embeds on how the nominees are preparing. so what is at stake in the vice presidential debate? joining me is matt visor, the national political...
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in one of the debates, foreign policy was huge. and there was a big narrative out there that president obama, you know, he couldn't take the 3:00 a.m. phone call, wasn't prepared, didn't have executive experience, wasn't ready to do foreign policy. president obama stood up in that debate, and i think it's one for the highlight reel. he said, if we have intelligence that osama bin laden is, you know, in pakistan and the pakistanis are unwilling or unable, we will do what we have to do. something to that effect. i mean, it was very effective. and so i think that president obama has a record in a debate. we know who he is. he means what he says. and i think that this is the failure of romney's campaign, throughout the entire narrative of this campaign, we've never been able to really know who this guy is. he has to play tonight. >> i think chris's point about emotional intelligence is really important. but i will say this. training can get people to places they haven't been before. when president obama began, everyone said he was too
in one of the debates, foreign policy was huge. and there was a big narrative out there that president obama, you know, he couldn't take the 3:00 a.m. phone call, wasn't prepared, didn't have executive experience, wasn't ready to do foreign policy. president obama stood up in that debate, and i think it's one for the highlight reel. he said, if we have intelligence that osama bin laden is, you know, in pakistan and the pakistanis are unwilling or unable, we will do what we have to do. something...
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foreign policy doesn't tend to be one of the top issues for many voters, even after 9/11, so it won't necessarily help him on the economic front. so i don't know how much it would ultimately yield him, but he's been very tough on president obama on foreign policy, hearing him say, again, something along the lines of what you just plays wouldn't surprise me a bit. >> beth fouhy, thank you so much, and anne kornblut, always a pleasure, and so much so, we'll see you a little bit later this hour, right? >> yes. >> thank you. >>> inking the deal. nfl refs are voted today the result of that vote, on the other side of this break. and a little bit later, the day wall street and capitol hill collided. we'll look back at when the dow took a 700-point dive. that's ahead in our flashback. >>> first, though, with the lead in the polls, can president obama cruise until election day? what might trip up the incumbent, next. this is msnbc, the place for politics. [ male announcer ] let's say you need to take care of legal matters. wouldn't it be nice if there was an easier, less-expensive option than
foreign policy doesn't tend to be one of the top issues for many voters, even after 9/11, so it won't necessarily help him on the economic front. so i don't know how much it would ultimately yield him, but he's been very tough on president obama on foreign policy, hearing him say, again, something along the lines of what you just plays wouldn't surprise me a bit. >> beth fouhy, thank you so much, and anne kornblut, always a pleasure, and so much so, we'll see you a little bit later this...
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i want to ask you something about the foreign policy front. the administration has basic plea changed its account of what happened in libya, where our u.s. ambassador was killed. they said, susan rice said on this broadcast last sunday, after the president of libya said this was the work of terrorists, she said, no, this was because of a spontaneous demonstration that had to do with that film. now they have come around to saying, well, yes, it was a terrorist attack. is mitt romney making enough of this? i haven't heard too much from him on that. >> bob, what struck me-- and i have nope the director of national intelligence for years. he's a bright man. he's a competent man. this administration in effect is now saying, "oh, don't blame the united nations ambassador. don't blame the white house spokesman. don't blame the president, because our intelligence system failed so decisively." i don't know which worries me more, the idea that the intelligence system took weeks to figure out the obvious-- although we are told in fact they had informatio
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but clearly there were huge mistakes made here, and huge -- i argue -- foreign policy mistakes that were compounded by the original decision that they weren't going to use the information that the intelligence committee was giving them and they were going to go off on their own. i think it's a dangerous decision. i think we're seeing that now and we're going to pay a price for this. and we're going to have to figure out how to put it back together. >> have you been told you're going to get all of the cables, anything in prior months in and years to this, that this was coming, especially in the two or three months before? >> we've requested the documents. they have yet to arrive. the cooperation is not what we had hoped. i just hope we don't have to ramp this up. this should be done -- we should do this as an internal investigation so we can move forward and make sure that the orem basscies of the world, that we don't not let al qaeda off the hook on this, and i'll tell you again, that 9/11 commission was very strong in not responding to the uss cole may have cost us the 9/11 attack, but
but clearly there were huge mistakes made here, and huge -- i argue -- foreign policy mistakes that were compounded by the original decision that they weren't going to use the information that the intelligence committee was giving them and they were going to go off on their own. i think it's a dangerous decision. i think we're seeing that now and we're going to pay a price for this. and we're going to have to figure out how to put it back together. >> have you been told you're going to...
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policy, which is hands down much more popular than any recent president in time, that foreign policy is not being effective and the president has a clear advantage in the campaign on this issue. >> sw joel ruben thank you for your time. thank you. >> the supreme court begins a new term today and it tops our look at stories around the news nation. the nation's highest court is taking on the high profile issues among them affirmative action in school admissions process, the voting rights act of 1965 and federal recognition of same-sex marriage. next week the supreme court is expected to hear arguments on the affirmative action case which is based on a texas student's claim that she was denied admission to the university of texas because she's white. and police in tennessee are searching for two missing children, a 9-year-old and her 7-year-old brother. both children mysteriously vanished after their grandparents home was burned to the ground south of nashville last sunday. they were originally presumed dead in the fire. police issued an amber alert. no leads. >>> and our "news nation"
policy, which is hands down much more popular than any recent president in time, that foreign policy is not being effective and the president has a clear advantage in the campaign on this issue. >> sw joel ruben thank you for your time. thank you. >> the supreme court begins a new term today and it tops our look at stories around the news nation. the nation's highest court is taking on the high profile issues among them affirmative action in school admissions process, the voting...
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romney calls obama's foreign policy dangerous. romney's debate plan, clearly and concisely explain how he can fix the economy. >> i expect to be able to describe that in a way people will understand, and if they do, i get elected. >> reporter: his running mate, paul ryan, is already preparing for his own debate a week away. >> i really believe in the policies that we're providing, we're pursuing. and at the end of the day, i'm just going to go in there and be me. >> reporter: and if you can't control what actually happens in the debate, you certainly control what happens afterwards. the spin already in the planning. ryan's going to be with romney in virginia. the president is staying in colorado for a rally there. veronica? >> tracie, we appreciate it. thank you. >>> nato forces in afghanistan say three international service members and their translator were killed in a suicide bombing in the eastern part of the country this morning. this as the war in afghanistan reached a grim milestone sunday with a death of the 2,000th u.s. se
romney calls obama's foreign policy dangerous. romney's debate plan, clearly and concisely explain how he can fix the economy. >> i expect to be able to describe that in a way people will understand, and if they do, i get elected. >> reporter: his running mate, paul ryan, is already preparing for his own debate a week away. >> i really believe in the policies that we're providing, we're pursuing. and at the end of the day, i'm just going to go in there and be me. >>...
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policy as it relates to the arab spring. i think if the governor wants to, he can use this format, which is open ended on the economy, talk about the economy, but also about american strength and how that can or will be affected in the future economically. so i wouldn't be surprised at all if what you saw in that op-ed that governor romney wrote for the "wall street journal" doesn't become part of a response to a larnler conversation about not just economics in america, but the economic projection, the values projection and foreign policy pro jex. >> let me ask you about the deb krzyzewskied. it's going to be six segments. the moderator has some ability to let it go and bring the conversation more broadly. breathe more than we've seen in the past. does that favor one person or the other? >> no, i don't think so. i think as you know, who goes first was determined by coin flip and there's a slight advantage of having your opponent go first. in the opening, romney won the coin toss because president obama goes first and that me
policy as it relates to the arab spring. i think if the governor wants to, he can use this format, which is open ended on the economy, talk about the economy, but also about american strength and how that can or will be affected in the future economically. so i wouldn't be surprised at all if what you saw in that op-ed that governor romney wrote for the "wall street journal" doesn't become part of a response to a larnler conversation about not just economics in america, but the...
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here's what he said slamming the president on foreign policy. by failing to maintain the elements of our influence and stepping away from our alleys, president obama has heightened the prospect of conflict and instability. he does not understand an american policy that lacks resolve can provoke aggression. the arab spring presented an opportunity to help move millions of people from oppression to freedom, but it also presented grave risks. we needed a strategy for success, but the president offered none. and now he seeks to down play the significance of the calamities of the past few weeks. steve, does he have a point? >> no. what's the old saying? that dog won't hunt. i don't think you can criticize barack obama on his foreign policy achievements. it's a tough world out there. it's complicated. things don't always happen the way we want them to, but they have done a terrific job of handling very difficult situations. they killed osama bin laden. i think they have a record to stand on that the president can proudly go to the debates and argue wi
here's what he said slamming the president on foreign policy. by failing to maintain the elements of our influence and stepping away from our alleys, president obama has heightened the prospect of conflict and instability. he does not understand an american policy that lacks resolve can provoke aggression. the arab spring presented an opportunity to help move millions of people from oppression to freedom, but it also presented grave risks. we needed a strategy for success, but the president...
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>> foreign policy. if you said a couple years ago i'd sit here saying the democratic candidate's strong suit is foreign policy, that would take me by surprise. >> the first debate is domestic policy. >> you're absolutely right. i would stick with the jobs numbers and talk about how we're not where we want to be relatively to 100 thousand plus being gained per month but it's better than an 800,000 job loss. people need to be reminded of the numbers. >> and romney's weapons? >> romney's weapon is still that executive card. bain and all, he has to say i've gotten it done in business. i know the liabilities attached to the profile, tamron, but that's the bed he chose and he has to have a private sector-like fix for the economy. >> no time limits on answers, moderator's discretion, domestic policy, at least 90 minutes devoted to the economy. we're going to talk about a new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll that looks at this debate. do you buy what chris christie said yesterday, this is a game-changer come
>> foreign policy. if you said a couple years ago i'd sit here saying the democratic candidate's strong suit is foreign policy, that would take me by surprise. >> the first debate is domestic policy. >> you're absolutely right. i would stick with the jobs numbers and talk about how we're not where we want to be relatively to 100 thousand plus being gained per month but it's better than an 800,000 job loss. people need to be reminded of the numbers. >> and romney's...
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policy and national security. and he has proven adept at walking the tight rope at great heights by refusing to take a stand on any issue of any substance at any time this entire campaign cycle. the problem with this clown show is that while it's been entertaining, the ticket price is also very high. as the gop verges on going from grand old party to tired old side show americans are denied a functioning two-party system, a robust debate that is at the very heart of our democracy. so, governor romney, kindly set aside the youtube clips, the you didn't build thats, and the conservative dog whistles that guess what all of us can hear, put up a good fight, an honest fight, in the end politics may still be a circus, but the country deserves more than just peanuts. thanks again to kurt, richard, karen and michael. that is all for now. i will see you back here tomorrow for post-debate analysis at noon eastern, 9:00 a.m. pacific when joined by savannah guthrie, former governor ed rendell, professorer michael eric dyson a
policy and national security. and he has proven adept at walking the tight rope at great heights by refusing to take a stand on any issue of any substance at any time this entire campaign cycle. the problem with this clown show is that while it's been entertaining, the ticket price is also very high. as the gop verges on going from grand old party to tired old side show americans are denied a functioning two-party system, a robust debate that is at the very heart of our democracy. so, governor...
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romney on foreign policy and the wars. and he is -- he's right there when he says that we don't know what mr. rney would d if he beme president. ryaiecynd guely that he supports what president obama is doing in afghanistan in terms of there being a timeline for leaving but he has also said he was against a timeline for leaving in the past. so really who knows? he's not even trying. the closest we've gotten tony competing cogent republican posionhears pbl wh weot from senator john mccain at the republican convention when he said that the afghanistan war just shouldn't end. he also thinks that the iraq war shouldn't have ended. so i'm not sure that it's a politically viable position even if it is an iernally cogent one from the senator. fois's mi appantlyust t going to happen. not unless he starts it now. 40 days out, mitt romney did get as close as he gets to talking about the issue to in that he spoke before a group of veterans and talked about a concern about veterans. even ihe didn't say what he ntedo a tcon. romney, in
romney on foreign policy and the wars. and he is -- he's right there when he says that we don't know what mr. rney would d if he beme president. ryaiecynd guely that he supports what president obama is doing in afghanistan in terms of there being a timeline for leaving but he has also said he was against a timeline for leaving in the past. so really who knows? he's not even trying. the closest we've gotten tony competing cogent republican posionhears pbl wh weot from senator john mccain at the...
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what is your sense of what he might do these of the foreign policy. the last of these presidential debates will b specifice wii about foreign policy. this notion that is president lacks resolve and our foreign policy is lacking under his leadership. >> i don't know. to think that our problem is too little military seems to me again to get it completely wrong. we wasted a great deal of the past 11 years in two wars we never should of had. the iraq war on phony pretenses. the afghanistan war, another war we should never have had. we spent trillions of dollars, a waste of money and a waste of blood. it seems what romney is saying we do not have enough military. again, to my mind, it gets it exactly wrong. i think president obama has been judicious in the past year in this arab spring, which is a tremendous amount of tumult in the middle east. we do not control events cared for romney to pretend that we do it and pretend there is a military approach to all this takes us back to the dark days when we were losing so many more lives and fighting so much usel
what is your sense of what he might do these of the foreign policy. the last of these presidential debates will b specifice wii about foreign policy. this notion that is president lacks resolve and our foreign policy is lacking under his leadership. >> i don't know. to think that our problem is too little military seems to me again to get it completely wrong. we wasted a great deal of the past 11 years in two wars we never should of had. the iraq war on phony pretenses. the afghanistan...
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for example you have economic crises and foreign policy crises. if you play poker, you're used to playing your hand well. you catch a lucky card or you play bad and catch the card of your life. you used to think about improbability. you are calmer when you watch the he ebb and flow of polls an political news. >> you talk about weather forecasting has improved over the years, and the glitch that sort of caused the ibm computer to beat gary in the 1997 chess game. what are the worst at predicting? what do we get wrong more than anything else? >> in general the field of economic prediction is a pretty bad example. for example, in december of 2007, most people in the "wall street journal's" forecasting panel, 45 distinguished economists said we would not go into a recession over the next year. in fact, it turned out we were already in recession by december 2007. it was later revealed through the data. when we're in a recession we don't know it half the time and can't predict the macro economy more than six months in advance. you had all kinds of probl
for example you have economic crises and foreign policy crises. if you play poker, you're used to playing your hand well. you catch a lucky card or you play bad and catch the card of your life. you used to think about improbability. you are calmer when you watch the he ebb and flow of polls an political news. >> you talk about weather forecasting has improved over the years, and the glitch that sort of caused the ibm computer to beat gary in the 1997 chess game. what are the worst at...